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225G ECO and 20G frag
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I'll be getting rid of almost all the rock and fish already bought all the lighting and pump's just need to figure some small detail's out
9th aquarium planning and In the work's:
200g system
approx 160 lb's L.R mostly man made and seeded with irratant free L.R
Display:
90G-48"Lx18"Wx24"H 3"dsb
Lighting:
Tek lighting canopy with individual reflector's
4-20 000k / 2-figi / 2-12 000k shaded with tin foil on edges moon light with cycle's
Flow: like wheat in a gentle breeze no thrashing current's
algae turf scrubber:
lighting:4-t5 h.o 3" from screen
acrylic box:16"H x 26"Lx6"W
screen:22 1/2"W x 13 1/2"H
flow: 750G pump
maybe a surge device set on 3 minute on/off interval's
40G kenya tree nutrient scrubber raceway:
above sump
lighting:4-t5's 2-10 000k 2-20 000k
scrubber:36"Lx24"Wx12"H 60 plug's 6"-8" tall tree's
216" of water channel track 2"-3" dsb
Flow:400 to 500gph
20G shrimp only tank:
above display
lighting:2-normal output 65 00k/20 000k
plumbed 8 to 10 shrimp's 3" dsb
50G refuge:
above display
lighting:4-normal output 3-6 500k 1-20 000K
48"Lx12"Wx18"H
3"dsb
coral's:
zoo,paly,yuma,gorgonian,Christmas Tree Coral,sunpolyp,dandro,duncan,Scleronephthya-Cauliflower Coral-Orange, Red, Violet ,pink,yellow etc
Fish:
renting a pair of nemo's and 3-chromis's for the first bit of preperation's and a small female mandarin that will stay later I'll get rid of chromis's/nemo's later and keep the female mandarin then I'll slowly add the 2nd male mandarin
10G top off reservoir,phyto drip,pod culture dosing,10% weekly water changes,quarinteen tank,20g frag,extreme irratant removel and prevention,man made L.R/plug's
I'll be getting rid of almost all the rock and fish already bought all the lighting and pump's just need to figure some small detail's out
9th aquarium planning and In the work's:
200g system
approx 160 lb's L.R mostly man made and seeded with irratant free L.R
Display:
90G-48"Lx18"Wx24"H 3"dsb
Lighting:
Tek lighting canopy with individual reflector's
4-20 000k / 2-figi / 2-12 000k shaded with tin foil on edges moon light with cycle's
Flow: like wheat in a gentle breeze no thrashing current's
algae turf scrubber:
lighting:4-t5 h.o 3" from screen
acrylic box:16"H x 26"Lx6"W
screen:22 1/2"W x 13 1/2"H
flow: 750G pump
maybe a surge device set on 3 minute on/off interval's
40G kenya tree nutrient scrubber raceway:
above sump
lighting:4-t5's 2-10 000k 2-20 000k
scrubber:36"Lx24"Wx12"H 60 plug's 6"-8" tall tree's
216" of water channel track 2"-3" dsb
Flow:400 to 500gph
20G shrimp only tank:
above display
lighting:2-normal output 65 00k/20 000k
plumbed 8 to 10 shrimp's 3" dsb
50G refuge:
above display
lighting:4-normal output 3-6 500k 1-20 000K
48"Lx12"Wx18"H
3"dsb
coral's:
zoo,paly,yuma,gorgonian,Christmas Tree Coral,sunpolyp,dandro,duncan,Scleronephthya-Cauliflower Coral-Orange, Red, Violet ,pink,yellow etc
Fish:
renting a pair of nemo's and 3-chromis's for the first bit of preperation's and a small female mandarin that will stay later I'll get rid of chromis's/nemo's later and keep the female mandarin then I'll slowly add the 2nd male mandarin
10G top off reservoir,phyto drip,pod culture dosing,10% weekly water changes,quarinteen tank,20g frag,extreme irratant removel and prevention,man made L.R/plug's
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PHYTO4LIFE- Number of posts : 79
Tank Size- Gallons : 90G DT,30G sump
8-T5/4-20 000k/2-12 000K/2-blue&purple
2-lift sump's in-sump
2-power head's
3 dsb
70lbs LR
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Re: 225G ECO and 20G frag
your house is a fish store, . Nice.
200 gallon, are you adding anything special?
200 gallon, are you adding anything special?
MadWorld- Number of posts : 16
Tank Size- Gallons : 5.5gallon nano tank
Going to get a 40 gall with a 20gall sump.
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Re: 225G ECO and 20G frag
just a pair of mandarin's trying to get them into breeding condition's later hopeful a pair of pipefish the yellow strip one's if I can go 100% live food If I fail then it will be mostly for coral propagating I want to have mostly high end zoo's/ric's/yuma
PHYTO4LIFE- Number of posts : 79
Tank Size- Gallons : 90G DT,30G sump
8-T5/4-20 000k/2-12 000K/2-blue&purple
2-lift sump's in-sump
2-power head's
3 dsb
70lbs LR
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Re: 225G ECO and 20G frag
update on progress new 450gph lift pump and all but 40 lb's of LR and 2 nemos's,3 chromis's and 1 small mandarin got rid of alot of fish and rock
it will be a 225G system instead of a 200G
correction on the kenya tree raceway I'll be using it for yuma's,high end zoo's etc too
Since unpluging my mrc life is good my zooplankton,worm's,micro star's,slug's,snail's are reproducing like mad can't wait to finish this system
it will be a 225G system instead of a 200G
correction on the kenya tree raceway I'll be using it for yuma's,high end zoo's etc too
Since unpluging my mrc life is good my zooplankton,worm's,micro star's,slug's,snail's are reproducing like mad can't wait to finish this system
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PHYTO4LIFE- Number of posts : 79
Tank Size- Gallons : 90G DT,30G sump
8-T5/4-20 000k/2-12 000K/2-blue&purple
2-lift sump's in-sump
2-power head's
3 dsb
70lbs LR
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Re: 225G ECO and 20G frag
Tigriopus californicus
AKA TIGERPOD'S for seahorse
100G culture/maybe propagating pond mrc and pump's will be comming out I need to figure out how to get a light rolling boil for flow in the pond
will be planning a way to regularly supply the pond with a realy light tint of green/yellowish phyto both nano and iso packing the tiger's full of high Hufa's epa,dha,pigiment's,protein,carbohydrate
Nitokra lacustris for mandarin's in the culture planning stage as I speak
figured if this goes right I will be able to supply my filterfeeder's/pod's etc
with 2 type's of phyto on a dose to my system keeping it very alive and also harvesting the 2 zooplankton's at different cycle's of their live's to feed the different size coral polyp's along with using them as extra scavenger's for my natural filter
stumbled accross 2 of these at a garage sale wish I knew where to get 2G one's where I can fit my hand inside still not sure what I will use it for
AKA TIGERPOD'S for seahorse
100G culture/maybe propagating pond mrc and pump's will be comming out I need to figure out how to get a light rolling boil for flow in the pond
will be planning a way to regularly supply the pond with a realy light tint of green/yellowish phyto both nano and iso packing the tiger's full of high Hufa's epa,dha,pigiment's,protein,carbohydrate
Nitokra lacustris for mandarin's in the culture planning stage as I speak
figured if this goes right I will be able to supply my filterfeeder's/pod's etc
with 2 type's of phyto on a dose to my system keeping it very alive and also harvesting the 2 zooplankton's at different cycle's of their live's to feed the different size coral polyp's along with using them as extra scavenger's for my natural filter
stumbled accross 2 of these at a garage sale wish I knew where to get 2G one's where I can fit my hand inside still not sure what I will use it for
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PHYTO4LIFE- Number of posts : 79
Tank Size- Gallons : 90G DT,30G sump
8-T5/4-20 000k/2-12 000K/2-blue&purple
2-lift sump's in-sump
2-power head's
3 dsb
70lbs LR
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Re: 225G ECO and 20G frag
If all goes well in the end not sure how many year's I would love to have pair's of $1000 each seahorse's having babies and raise/crossbreed them for color,shape,size etc
it's a lot of work but seahorse's,pipefish's,mandarin's fell into place when researching coral's and propagating,nutrition,natural filter,natural export,t5 H.O bluer light,light cycle's,light/live food manipulation of coral's autotrophs vs heterotrophs adaptability percentage's,above display macro free refuge loaded with rock rubble for zooplankton system supply ,slow/medium flow, polyp size and proper live food capture/flow rate capture etc etc
side note not sure if possible but I believe there is a chance to cross breed some type's of coral's but probably a pipe dream I know it happens in the wild thou at time's under extreme condition's as a way to survive
it's a lot of work but seahorse's,pipefish's,mandarin's fell into place when researching coral's and propagating,nutrition,natural filter,natural export,t5 H.O bluer light,light cycle's,light/live food manipulation of coral's autotrophs vs heterotrophs adaptability percentage's,above display macro free refuge loaded with rock rubble for zooplankton system supply ,slow/medium flow, polyp size and proper live food capture/flow rate capture etc etc
side note not sure if possible but I believe there is a chance to cross breed some type's of coral's but probably a pipe dream I know it happens in the wild thou at time's under extreme condition's as a way to survive
PHYTO4LIFE- Number of posts : 79
Tank Size- Gallons : 90G DT,30G sump
8-T5/4-20 000k/2-12 000K/2-blue&purple
2-lift sump's in-sump
2-power head's
3 dsb
70lbs LR
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Re: 225G ECO and 20G frag
wow...congrats on a great lookin future in this hobby...alot of what you posted is french to me. *giggles* but sure sounds exciting enough..
Where you from again?
Where you from again?
Re: 225G ECO and 20G frag
Shannon *Admin* wrote:wow...congrats on a great lookin future in this hobby...alot of what you posted is french to me. *giggles* but sure sounds exciting enough..
Where you from again?
thank's I'm from windsor alot not all of it was done in section's over the last 7 year's, 9 plus tank's 2,10,20,50,60,75,90 some x2 I'll be starting almost over from scratch never had a big system or many skill's just alot of research on the wild reef's and home aquarium's along with just trying to incorperate some idea's of alot of people/professional's together If I was to snap my finger's and had the money/skill I would hook up some of my idea's on a large large scale some day thou I hope
PHYTO4LIFE- Number of posts : 79
Tank Size- Gallons : 90G DT,30G sump
8-T5/4-20 000k/2-12 000K/2-blue&purple
2-lift sump's in-sump
2-power head's
3 dsb
70lbs LR
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It's not all french to me but I am having trouble trying to follow along with the thread. If I have it right, it sounds like what you're trying to do is a great idea with all natural filtration, I'm just a little confused at exactly how it all ties together. A little detailed write up to explain whats happening would be helpful.Shannon *Admin* wrote:wow...congrats on a great lookin future in this hobby...alot of what you posted is french to me. *giggles* but sure sounds exciting enough..
Where you from again?
2Frosty4u- Number of posts : 110
Location : Hamilton, Ont.
Tank Size- Gallons : 120g Reef, 35g fuge, 35g sump, 2X250W MH, 2X110W VHO actinic, Euroreef CS8-4 Skimmer, Blueline 100HD return pump, OM squirt 4 way closed loop.
75g Fowlr tied into reef system.
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Protein skimmer's are great and people can have a wonderful tank with them but for me as a personal decision I decided to go without
IMO I don't won't to offend anyone so this is only my opinion
but would like to try to explain it it might take awhile
ignore the grammer,spelling etc
without a skimmer this give's me the ability to keep in protein's protein's are what I am trying to keep in a protein skimmer does not take out inorganic's it take's out organic's example food
when adding zooplankton,phyto I want to keep this in my tank along with having a refuge/predator free place where they can reproduce the zooplankton themselve's are scavenger's they act as little cleaner's like hermit's along as being food for my system
What I am trying to create is a very live deverse ecosystem very simular to the ocean
since mandarin's in the wild usualy spent their life time in a very small secton of the ocean like the size of a 90G I'm hoping to closely reproduce this natural state
IMO I don't won't to offend anyone so this is only my opinion
but would like to try to explain it it might take awhile
ignore the grammer,spelling etc
without a skimmer this give's me the ability to keep in protein's protein's are what I am trying to keep in a protein skimmer does not take out inorganic's it take's out organic's example food
when adding zooplankton,phyto I want to keep this in my tank along with having a refuge/predator free place where they can reproduce the zooplankton themselve's are scavenger's they act as little cleaner's like hermit's along as being food for my system
What I am trying to create is a very live deverse ecosystem very simular to the ocean
since mandarin's in the wild usualy spent their life time in a very small secton of the ocean like the size of a 90G I'm hoping to closely reproduce this natural state
PHYTO4LIFE- Number of posts : 79
Tank Size- Gallons : 90G DT,30G sump
8-T5/4-20 000k/2-12 000K/2-blue&purple
2-lift sump's in-sump
2-power head's
3 dsb
70lbs LR
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Thanks, for the explanation. That makes things a bit easier to understand. Does the pond get tied into the 225g ECO system or is it a stand alone thing that will be harvested and added?
2Frosty4u- Number of posts : 110
Location : Hamilton, Ont.
Tank Size- Gallons : 120g Reef, 35g fuge, 35g sump, 2X250W MH, 2X110W VHO actinic, Euroreef CS8-4 Skimmer, Blueline 100HD return pump, OM squirt 4 way closed loop.
75g Fowlr tied into reef system.
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Re: 225G ECO and 20G frag
Stand alone to be harvested to feed different size coral's/animal's and extra that will supply my expensive hobby if thing's go well and I am able to maybe some day put this into action and show that once hard to keep species is now easily kept it might grow interest one day as a alternative to a tank with a skimmer not sure but would like find out
A algae turf scrubber is a alternative to a skimmer/refuge If you want I can describe this?
A algae turf scrubber is a alternative to a skimmer/refuge If you want I can describe this?
PHYTO4LIFE- Number of posts : 79
Tank Size- Gallons : 90G DT,30G sump
8-T5/4-20 000k/2-12 000K/2-blue&purple
2-lift sump's in-sump
2-power head's
3 dsb
70lbs LR
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Re: 225G ECO and 20G frag
Actually since the algae turf scrubber was referenced earlier in a few threads here and there, I've actually been doing some reading and research on the topic and have found it to be quite informative and interesting.
It's like I tell people thinking about getting into marine tanks: "read as much as you can on the subject , then read some more and when you think you know it all....get another book"
I figure I'll never finish learning in this hobby.
It's like I tell people thinking about getting into marine tanks: "read as much as you can on the subject , then read some more and when you think you know it all....get another book"
I figure I'll never finish learning in this hobby.
2Frosty4u- Number of posts : 110
Location : Hamilton, Ont.
Tank Size- Gallons : 120g Reef, 35g fuge, 35g sump, 2X250W MH, 2X110W VHO actinic, Euroreef CS8-4 Skimmer, Blueline 100HD return pump, OM squirt 4 way closed loop.
75g Fowlr tied into reef system.
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That is so so true imo this hobby allow's me to learn simple thing's that I've missed when I was younger due to skipping grade school/not going to the right school's/not paying attention but now that I have found something I'm interested in I have a reason to try to upgrade simple thing's
like: computer's,carpentry,design,planning,research,science,biology,nutrition
grammar,punctuation,spelling,closed system and trying to duplicate the ocean by learning from it and simply trying to bring it to a home 5000 mile's away with species in the wild that would of never been put together in nature in a small box
some people say it can't be done etc I've stayed off forum's for my first 5 year's now after in my 7th year I pop up on them and no offense not this site but if your not on the right site with the right categories to post in a person leaves them self open to very personal attacks and threat's for having a different opinion because a person can get attacked on all aspect's of the hobby just because 99% do it one way and I do the other and try to stand up for my belief's I get stomped into the ground looking and feeling like I never learned a thing o yeah my reputation is garbage now wish more people had a open concept of the hobby like you never thought I would
have to watch my back going to a fish store lmao if only what they said when I joined was true
like: computer's,carpentry,design,planning,research,science,biology,nutrition
grammar,punctuation,spelling,closed system and trying to duplicate the ocean by learning from it and simply trying to bring it to a home 5000 mile's away with species in the wild that would of never been put together in nature in a small box
some people say it can't be done etc I've stayed off forum's for my first 5 year's now after in my 7th year I pop up on them and no offense not this site but if your not on the right site with the right categories to post in a person leaves them self open to very personal attacks and threat's for having a different opinion because a person can get attacked on all aspect's of the hobby just because 99% do it one way and I do the other and try to stand up for my belief's I get stomped into the ground looking and feeling like I never learned a thing o yeah my reputation is garbage now wish more people had a open concept of the hobby like you never thought I would
have to watch my back going to a fish store lmao if only what they said when I joined was true
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PHYTO4LIFE- Number of posts : 79
Tank Size- Gallons : 90G DT,30G sump
8-T5/4-20 000k/2-12 000K/2-blue&purple
2-lift sump's in-sump
2-power head's
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I'll be using this container from walmart minus the retorfit tubing also alittle more square about 6 to 8 of them to culture nano phyto plankton
this is the culturing station it is empty will have 3 to 4 pump's with dual output from walmart
this is the screen to filter
this is the culturing station it is empty will have 3 to 4 pump's with dual output from walmart
this is the screen to filter
PHYTO4LIFE- Number of posts : 79
Tank Size- Gallons : 90G DT,30G sump
8-T5/4-20 000k/2-12 000K/2-blue&purple
2-lift sump's in-sump
2-power head's
3 dsb
70lbs LR
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I know exactly what your saying about getting attacked in other sites forums. I'll just leave it at that.PHYTO4LIFE wrote:
some people say it can't be done etc I've stayed off forum's for my first 5 year's now after in my 7th year I pop up on them and no offense not this site but if your not on the right site with the right categories to post in a person leaves them self open to very personal attacks and threat's for having a different opinion because a person can get attacked on all aspect's of the hobby just because 99% do it one way and I do the other and try to stand up for my belief's I get stomped into the ground looking and feeling like I never learned a thing o yeah my reputation is garbage now wish more people had a open concept of the hobby like you never thought I would
have to watch my back going to a fish store lmao if only what they said when I joined was true
Looks like your off to good start on your phyto grow op. My last set of cultures crashed and I haven't had a chance to pick up a new one yet to get mine going again.
2Frosty4u- Number of posts : 110
Location : Hamilton, Ont.
Tank Size- Gallons : 120g Reef, 35g fuge, 35g sump, 2X250W MH, 2X110W VHO actinic, Euroreef CS8-4 Skimmer, Blueline 100HD return pump, OM squirt 4 way closed loop.
75g Fowlr tied into reef system.
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pm sent
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Tank Size- Gallons : 90G DT,30G sump
8-T5/4-20 000k/2-12 000K/2-blue&purple
2-lift sump's in-sump
2-power head's
3 dsb
70lbs LR
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DIY Phytoplankton 1/8 cup per 20G to start and slowly increasing over time to 1 cup IMO is the future of saltwater tank's this over looked product will be my pridiction along with a ATS and zooplanton that will open this hobby up to anyone that is into keeping surtton hard to keep coral and fish that will bring a very natural approach to reefkeeping
nutrition imo is key
everything has been done so I decided to gear my studies toward's bringing this to my tank
we can easily provide enough light and flow but can anyone honestly say they have pushed nutrition to the max?
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Tank Size- Gallons : 90G DT,30G sump
8-T5/4-20 000k/2-12 000K/2-blue&purple
2-lift sump's in-sump
2-power head's
3 dsb
70lbs LR
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ALGAE TURF SCRUBBER:
On a 90G DT/25G Sump
T5-HO 192 Watt Acrylic Box Design Above Sump
Approx Screen 22" Width x 13" Height
Flow750 GPH
Dual Fan
The
ATS2010
PHYTO
Copied from santa monica.
Acrylic Box:
23 1/4" to 24" length
3 1/2" to 4" width
16" to 17" height
Light Canopy:
Total 192watts
There will be a canopy on each side of the screen it will be
lit by 4-t5 high output 6500k bulb's.
Light Canopy Demension's:
Approx 23 1/4" length x 10.1/8" x 2 1/4"
The light's are 1" tucked up inside measuring from out side of the canopy frame inner tip of lip to outside of the light tube.
The canopy also has reflector's the canopy is called sunlight supply with a workhorse ballast I believe.
This is the light canopy I will use x2.
Screen:
22 1/2" width x 13 9/16" height x little over 2/8" thickness approx with 4 screen's glued
together.
This is the type of screen I will use x4 the size is discribed above thickness is 3/4 of a 1/16 of a inch?, $2 each @ walmart in the fabric section.
I will use 4 of them glued together and roughed up like crazy on each side using 60 grit sand paper and maybe a steal filer or something.
Pump:
Will be approx 750GPH.
This is the pump.
Pipe:
I'll be using 1/2" pipe from the pump approx 26" height
then a union I think it's called and another 24" length pipe for the box
Return:
This is the type of bulkhead I will use.
I'm thinking of using the common bulkhead's used for pool's probably 2
1 being the main and the other will be just above water level inside box to be on the safe side probably not neccessary.
ATS Positioning:
I plan on positioning the ATS right over my sump in the middle.
This is the new home for my ATS.
Fan's:
Hoping 2 will do mostly black plastic fan's.
On a 90G DT/25G Sump
T5-HO 192 Watt Acrylic Box Design Above Sump
Approx Screen 22" Width x 13" Height
Flow750 GPH
Dual Fan
The
ATS2010
PHYTO
Copied from santa monica.
Acrylic Box:
23 1/4" to 24" length
3 1/2" to 4" width
16" to 17" height
Light Canopy:
Total 192watts
There will be a canopy on each side of the screen it will be
lit by 4-t5 high output 6500k bulb's.
Light Canopy Demension's:
Approx 23 1/4" length x 10.1/8" x 2 1/4"
The light's are 1" tucked up inside measuring from out side of the canopy frame inner tip of lip to outside of the light tube.
The canopy also has reflector's the canopy is called sunlight supply with a workhorse ballast I believe.
This is the light canopy I will use x2.
Screen:
22 1/2" width x 13 9/16" height x little over 2/8" thickness approx with 4 screen's glued
together.
This is the type of screen I will use x4 the size is discribed above thickness is 3/4 of a 1/16 of a inch?, $2 each @ walmart in the fabric section.
I will use 4 of them glued together and roughed up like crazy on each side using 60 grit sand paper and maybe a steal filer or something.
Pump:
Will be approx 750GPH.
This is the pump.
Pipe:
I'll be using 1/2" pipe from the pump approx 26" height
then a union I think it's called and another 24" length pipe for the box
Return:
This is the type of bulkhead I will use.
I'm thinking of using the common bulkhead's used for pool's probably 2
1 being the main and the other will be just above water level inside box to be on the safe side probably not neccessary.
ATS Positioning:
I plan on positioning the ATS right over my sump in the middle.
This is the new home for my ATS.
Fan's:
Hoping 2 will do mostly black plastic fan's.
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PHYTO4LIFE- Number of posts : 79
Tank Size- Gallons : 90G DT,30G sump
8-T5/4-20 000k/2-12 000K/2-blue&purple
2-lift sump's in-sump
2-power head's
3 dsb
70lbs LR
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Re: 225G ECO and 20G frag
2Frosty4u wrote:I know exactly what your saying about getting attacked in other sites forums. I'll just leave it at that.PHYTO4LIFE wrote:
some people say it can't be done etc I've stayed off forum's for my first 5 year's now after in my 7th year I pop up on them and no offense not this site but if your not on the right site with the right categories to post in a person leaves them self open to very personal attacks and threat's for having a different opinion because a person can get attacked on all aspect's of the hobby just because 99% do it one way and I do the other and try to stand up for my belief's I get stomped into the ground looking and feeling like I never learned a thing o yeah my reputation is garbage now wish more people had a open concept of the hobby like you never thought I would
have to watch my back going to a fish store lmao if only what they said when I joined was true
Looks like your off to good start on your phyto grow op. My last set of cultures crashed and I haven't had a chance to pick up a new one yet to get mine going again.
I'll walk you through it if you want one day?
just need to get my ATS done and in a few month's forsure If you want
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8-T5/4-20 000k/2-12 000K/2-blue&purple
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Re: 225G ECO and 20G frag
I'm curious why you're using a seperate pump to feed the ATS instead of just feeding it directly from the overflow box on your DT? Whats the benefit?
Are the fans for cooling the bulbs?
Are the fans for cooling the bulbs?
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Tank Size- Gallons : 120g Reef, 35g fuge, 35g sump, 2X250W MH, 2X110W VHO actinic, Euroreef CS8-4 Skimmer, Blueline 100HD return pump, OM squirt 4 way closed loop.
75g Fowlr tied into reef system.
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Re: 225G ECO and 20G frag
This is the one I will copy but on a larger scale
the santa monica 120 I got a few thing's to figure out nothing big thou
http://forum.marinedepot.com/Topic89570-4-4.aspx
like thickness of acrylic?
painting it?
size of fan's?
Insump work's great just wanted to make something nice and fine tune it one day for look's so everything is hidden and that I can get the light real close to the screen
Fan's are for cooling the ballast's and bulb's because they will be up against the Acrylic not 100% but feel ballast's work best at cooler temp
along with if the pump stop's pushing water it doesn't fry the algae to much
not 100% on that neither hoping the box will stop most of the heat in that situation I heard that if that happen the algae create's a crust stoping the rest from frying
I want to go on the safe side and use 2 double the size of a hardball size fan's one on the front ballast and one on the back ballast one pushing the air to the left and the other one to the right right on the ballast/between the acrylic and ballast and abit and behind it
I wanted high power ATS with no P.S or macro only solely the ATS
only because I normally run tank's all natural with flow,rock,pod's,natural filter
this will allow me to dose plenty more then I even thought was humanly possible due to most of my food being alive
the santa monica 120 I got a few thing's to figure out nothing big thou
http://forum.marinedepot.com/Topic89570-4-4.aspx
like thickness of acrylic?
painting it?
size of fan's?
Insump work's great just wanted to make something nice and fine tune it one day for look's so everything is hidden and that I can get the light real close to the screen
Fan's are for cooling the ballast's and bulb's because they will be up against the Acrylic not 100% but feel ballast's work best at cooler temp
along with if the pump stop's pushing water it doesn't fry the algae to much
not 100% on that neither hoping the box will stop most of the heat in that situation I heard that if that happen the algae create's a crust stoping the rest from frying
I want to go on the safe side and use 2 double the size of a hardball size fan's one on the front ballast and one on the back ballast one pushing the air to the left and the other one to the right right on the ballast/between the acrylic and ballast and abit and behind it
I wanted high power ATS with no P.S or macro only solely the ATS
only because I normally run tank's all natural with flow,rock,pod's,natural filter
this will allow me to dose plenty more then I even thought was humanly possible due to most of my food being alive
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8-T5/4-20 000k/2-12 000K/2-blue&purple
2-lift sump's in-sump
2-power head's
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70lbs LR
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Re: 225G ECO and 20G frag
Thanks for the link. The pics Santa Monica has posted clears up some questions swirling around in my head.
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Location : Hamilton, Ont.
Tank Size- Gallons : 120g Reef, 35g fuge, 35g sump, 2X250W MH, 2X110W VHO actinic, Euroreef CS8-4 Skimmer, Blueline 100HD return pump, OM squirt 4 way closed loop.
75g Fowlr tied into reef system.
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Re: 225G ECO and 20G frag
Forum for ATS:
http://www.algaescrubber.net/forums/index.php?sid=e9bb51c760c2f0909e942b99151fee50
ATS General info a bit less of a read
http://www.algaescrubber.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=68
http://www.chucksaddiction.com/The%20Natural%20Reef%20Aquarium.html
Info about feeding coral etc I find informative:
you probably already read it
1 REEFFOOD
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-07/eb/index.php
2 FROM THE FOOD OF REEF TO THE FOOD OF CORAL'S
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-08/eb/index.php
3 PHYTOPLANKTON
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-10/eb/index.php
4 ZOOPLANKTON
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-12/eb/index.php
5 BACTERIA
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-01/eb/index.php
6 PARTICULATE ORGANIC MATTER
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-03/eb/index.php
7 DISSOLVED NUTRIENT'S
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-04/eb/index.php
IMO It's a good to start to understanding a bit about nutrition,natural export etc
IMO I found at times some types of my sps lost colour when I had little nutrition
or too bright of light's also through the years I did starve quite a few lps and filter feeders
FEEDING THE REEF AQAURIUM
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-02/rs/feature/index.php
Seasonal Variation Of Temperature on a coral reef
http://ozreef.org/library/articles/temperature_on_a_reef.html
Reef Sterwardship foundation
http://www.reefstewardshipfoundation.org/forums/index.php
montipora info:
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-05/reefslides/index.php
Fuel,zooplankton,phytoplankton,garbage,clean air,clean ocean etc
Algae biofuel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DRIg-K6kZs&feature=related
Algae as fuel Israel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_CRQYw9nvc&feature=related
Fuel Closed loop photo bio-reactor part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxNeBQCRv1c&feature=channel
2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGgZtY1r1R4&feature=channel
3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EleWvh8A6p0&feature=channel
4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkOs0bBPifc&feature=channel
Sustainable waves carbon eating aglae trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41miNUuB5w&feature=related
Free energy the 400 billion dollar secret (breaking down garbage in dumps)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWf9nYbm3ac&feature=related
Perspectives on Ocean Science:Phytoplankton in the Ocean/zooplankton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQPh61upbTs&feature=channel
Exploring the World Ocean Lecture part 1of96
https://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=27A75369B48472AC
Some quotes I like:
"To work in the service of life and the living, in search of the answers to questions unknown...to be part of the movement,and part of the growing,part of the beginning to understand...To live on the land we must learn from the sea" john denver
"less technology, more biology."
"keep it simple keep it natural."
"man can not discover new ocean's, until he has the courage to leave shore."
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" Albert Einstein
rotifers eating algae
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHmKVvvkKfI&feature=related
Algae
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Ra2q1ZqUU&feature=related
zooplankton under microscope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRd-g9qIVZw&feature=PlayList&p=B16E0C8E552629DE&index=33
Plankton | Tropical Marine Life DVD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuXMz3j9E8k&feature=related
Phytoplankton !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQYKa5AofQ8&feature=related
phytoplankton for humans lol don't take this to seriously yet its still in
development for filterization and doses along with cure for deseases etc etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJbqIncS-40&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dwC1t5G6fk&feature=related
http://www.algaescrubber.net/forums/index.php?sid=e9bb51c760c2f0909e942b99151fee50
ATS General info a bit less of a read
http://www.algaescrubber.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=68
http://www.chucksaddiction.com/The%20Natural%20Reef%20Aquarium.html
Info about feeding coral etc I find informative:
you probably already read it
1 REEFFOOD
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-07/eb/index.php
2 FROM THE FOOD OF REEF TO THE FOOD OF CORAL'S
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-08/eb/index.php
3 PHYTOPLANKTON
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-10/eb/index.php
4 ZOOPLANKTON
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-12/eb/index.php
5 BACTERIA
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-01/eb/index.php
6 PARTICULATE ORGANIC MATTER
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-03/eb/index.php
7 DISSOLVED NUTRIENT'S
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-04/eb/index.php
IMO It's a good to start to understanding a bit about nutrition,natural export etc
IMO I found at times some types of my sps lost colour when I had little nutrition
or too bright of light's also through the years I did starve quite a few lps and filter feeders
FEEDING THE REEF AQAURIUM
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-02/rs/feature/index.php
Seasonal Variation Of Temperature on a coral reef
http://ozreef.org/library/articles/temperature_on_a_reef.html
Reef Sterwardship foundation
http://www.reefstewardshipfoundation.org/forums/index.php
montipora info:
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-05/reefslides/index.php
Fuel,zooplankton,phytoplankton,garbage,clean air,clean ocean etc
Algae biofuel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DRIg-K6kZs&feature=related
Algae as fuel Israel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_CRQYw9nvc&feature=related
Fuel Closed loop photo bio-reactor part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxNeBQCRv1c&feature=channel
2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGgZtY1r1R4&feature=channel
3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EleWvh8A6p0&feature=channel
4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkOs0bBPifc&feature=channel
Sustainable waves carbon eating aglae trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41miNUuB5w&feature=related
Free energy the 400 billion dollar secret (breaking down garbage in dumps)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWf9nYbm3ac&feature=related
Perspectives on Ocean Science:Phytoplankton in the Ocean/zooplankton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQPh61upbTs&feature=channel
Exploring the World Ocean Lecture part 1of96
https://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=27A75369B48472AC
Some quotes I like:
"To work in the service of life and the living, in search of the answers to questions unknown...to be part of the movement,and part of the growing,part of the beginning to understand...To live on the land we must learn from the sea" john denver
"less technology, more biology."
"keep it simple keep it natural."
"man can not discover new ocean's, until he has the courage to leave shore."
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" Albert Einstein
rotifers eating algae
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHmKVvvkKfI&feature=related
Algae
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Ra2q1ZqUU&feature=related
zooplankton under microscope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRd-g9qIVZw&feature=PlayList&p=B16E0C8E552629DE&index=33
Plankton | Tropical Marine Life DVD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuXMz3j9E8k&feature=related
Phytoplankton !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQYKa5AofQ8&feature=related
phytoplankton for humans lol don't take this to seriously yet its still in
development for filterization and doses along with cure for deseases etc etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJbqIncS-40&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dwC1t5G6fk&feature=related
Last edited by PHYTO4LIFE on Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:32 am; edited 12 times in total (Reason for editing : squeezing in multiple posts)
PHYTO4LIFE- Number of posts : 79
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2-lift sump's in-sump
2-power head's
3 dsb
70lbs LR
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Re: 225G ECO and 20G frag
2Frosty4u wrote:Thanks for the link. The pics Santa Monica has posted clears up some questions swirling around in my head.
No problem people can alway's add a ATS scrubber with less flow/light to compliment their Skimmer and refuge as well
but if you go too big then macro won't grow along with the skimmer not being able to work I believe or atleast it will be watery and light yellow the skimmate instead of thick and dark coloured
PHYTO4LIFE- Number of posts : 79
Tank Size- Gallons : 90G DT,30G sump
8-T5/4-20 000k/2-12 000K/2-blue&purple
2-lift sump's in-sump
2-power head's
3 dsb
70lbs LR
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