225G ECO and 20G frag

PHYTO4LIFE wrote:
some people say it can't be done etc I've stayed off forum's for my first 5 year's now after in my 7th year I pop up on them and no offense not this site but if your not on the right site with the right categories to post in a person leaves them self open to very personal attacks and threat's for having a different opinion because a person can get attacked on all aspect's of the hobby just because 99% do it one way and I do the other and try to stand up for my belief's I get stomped into the ground looking and feeling like I never learned a thing o yeah my reputation is garbage now wish more people had a open concept of the hobby like you never thought I would
have to watch my back going to a fish store lmao if only what they said when I joined was true

I know exactly what your saying about getting attacked in other sites forums. I'll just leave it at that.

Looks like your off to good start on your phyto grow op. My last set of cultures crashed and I haven't had a chance to pick up a new one yet to get mine going again.

pm sent

DIY Phytoplankton 1/8 cup per 20G to start and slowly increasing over time to 1 cup IMO is the future of saltwater tank's this over looked product will be my pridiction along with a ATS and zooplanton that will open this hobby up to anyone that is into keeping surtton hard to keep coral and fish that will bring a very natural approach to reefkeeping

nutrition imo is key

everything has been done so I decided to gear my studies toward's bringing this to my tank

we can easily provide enough light and flow but can anyone honestly say they have pushed nutrition to the max?

ALGAE TURF SCRUBBER:

On a 90G DT/25G Sump

T5-HO 192 Watt Acrylic Box Design Above Sump

Approx Screen 22" Width x 13" Height

Flow750 GPH

Dual Fan


The
ATS2010
PHYTO
Copied from santa monica.

Acrylic Box:

23 1/4" to 24" length

3 1/2" to 4" width

16" to 17" height

Light Canopy:

Total 192watts

There will be a canopy on each side of the screen it will be

lit by 4-t5 high output 6500k bulb's.

Light Canopy Demension's:

Approx 23 1/4" length x 10.1/8" x 2 1/4"

The light's are 1" tucked up inside measuring from out side of the canopy frame inner tip of lip to outside of the light tube.

The canopy also has reflector's the canopy is called sunlight supply with a workhorse ballast I believe.

This is the light canopy I will use x2.




Screen:

22 1/2" width x 13 9/16" height x little over 2/8" thickness approx with 4 screen's glued
together.

This is the type of screen I will use x4 the size is discribed above thickness is 3/4 of a 1/16 of a inch?, $2 each @ walmart in the fabric section.



I will use 4 of them glued together and roughed up like crazy on each side using 60 grit sand paper and maybe a steal filer or something.

Pump:

Will be approx 750GPH.

This is the pump.



Pipe:

I'll be using 1/2" pipe from the pump approx 26" height
then a union I think it's called and another 24" length pipe for the box

Return:

This is the type of bulkhead I will use.



I'm thinking of using the common bulkhead's used for pool's probably 2
1 being the main and the other will be just above water level inside box to be on the safe side probably not neccessary.

ATS Positioning:

I plan on positioning the ATS right over my sump in the middle.

This is the new home for my ATS.



Fan's:

Hoping 2 will do mostly black plastic fan's.

2Frosty4u wrote:

PHYTO4LIFE wrote:
some people say it can't be done etc I've stayed off forum's for my first 5 year's now after in my 7th year I pop up on them and no offense not this site but if your not on the right site with the right categories to post in a person leaves them self open to very personal attacks and threat's for having a different opinion because a person can get attacked on all aspect's of the hobby just because 99% do it one way and I do the other and try to stand up for my belief's I get stomped into the ground looking and feeling like I never learned a thing o yeah my reputation is garbage now wish more people had a open concept of the hobby like you never thought I would
have to watch my back going to a fish store lmao if only what they said when I joined was true

I know exactly what your saying about getting attacked in other sites forums. I'll just leave it at that.

Looks like your off to good start on your phyto grow op. My last set of cultures crashed and I haven't had a chance to pick up a new one yet to get mine going again.

I'll walk you through it if you want one day?

just need to get my ATS done and in a few month's forsure If you want

I'm curious why you're using a seperate pump to feed the ATS instead of just feeding it directly from the overflow box on your DT? Whats the benefit?
Are the fans for cooling the bulbs?

This is the one I will copy but on a larger scale
the santa monica 120 I got a few thing's to figure out nothing big thou

http://forum.marinedepot.com/Topic89570-4-4.aspx

like thickness of acrylic?
painting it?
size of fan's?

Insump work's great just wanted to make something nice and fine tune it one day for look's so everything is hidden and that I can get the light real close to the screen

Fan's are for cooling the ballast's and bulb's because they will be up against the Acrylic not 100% but feel ballast's work best at cooler temp
along with if the pump stop's pushing water it doesn't fry the algae to much
not 100% on that neither hoping the box will stop most of the heat in that situation I heard that if that happen the algae create's a crust stoping the rest from frying

I want to go on the safe side and use 2 double the size of a hardball size fan's one on the front ballast and one on the back ballast one pushing the air to the left and the other one to the right right on the ballast/between the acrylic and ballast and abit and behind it

I wanted high power ATS with no P.S or macro only solely the ATS
only because I normally run tank's all natural with flow,rock,pod's,natural filter

this will allow me to dose plenty more then I even thought was humanly possible due to most of my food being alive

Thanks for the link. The pics Santa Monica has posted clears up some questions swirling around in my head.

Forum for ATS:

http://www.algaescrubber.net/forums/index.php?sid=e9bb51c760c2f0909e942b99151fee50

ATS General info a bit less of a read
http://www.algaescrubber.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=68
http://www.chucksaddiction.com/The%20Natural%20Reef%20Aquarium.html

Info about feeding coral etc I find informative:
you probably already read it

1 REEFFOOD
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-07/eb/index.php

2 FROM THE FOOD OF REEF TO THE FOOD OF CORAL'S
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-08/eb/index.php

3 PHYTOPLANKTON
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-10/eb/index.php

4 ZOOPLANKTON
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-12/eb/index.php

5 BACTERIA
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-01/eb/index.php

6 PARTICULATE ORGANIC MATTER
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-03/eb/index.php

7 DISSOLVED NUTRIENT'S
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-04/eb/index.php

IMO It's a good to start to understanding a bit about nutrition,natural export etc

IMO I found at times some types of my sps lost colour when I had little nutrition
or too bright of light's also through the years I did starve quite a few lps and filter feeders

FEEDING THE REEF AQAURIUM
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-02/rs/feature/index.php

Seasonal Variation Of Temperature on a coral reef
http://ozreef.org/library/articles/temperature_on_a_reef.html

Reef Sterwardship foundation
http://www.reefstewardshipfoundation.org/forums/index.php

montipora info:
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-05/reefslides/index.php

Fuel,zooplankton,phytoplankton,garbage,clean air,clean ocean etc

Algae biofuel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DRIg-K6kZs&feature=related

Algae as fuel Israel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_CRQYw9nvc&feature=related

Fuel Closed loop photo bio-reactor part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxNeBQCRv1c&feature=channel
2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGgZtY1r1R4&feature=channel
3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EleWvh8A6p0&feature=channel
4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkOs0bBPifc&feature=channel

Sustainable waves carbon eating aglae trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41miNUuB5w&feature=related

Free energy the 400 billion dollar secret (breaking down garbage in dumps)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWf9nYbm3ac&feature=related

Perspectives on Ocean Science:Phytoplankton in the Ocean/zooplankton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQPh61upbTs&feature=channel

Exploring the World Ocean Lecture part 1of96
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=27A75369B48472AC

Some quotes I like:

"To work in the service of life and the living, in search of the answers to questions unknown...to be part of the movement,and part of the growing,part of the beginning to understand...To live on the land we must learn from the sea" john denver

"less technology, more biology."

"keep it simple keep it natural."

"man can not discover new ocean's, until he has the courage to leave shore."

"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" Albert Einstein



rotifers eating algae
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHmKVvvkKfI&feature=related

Algae
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Ra2q1ZqUU&feature=related

zooplankton under microscope
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRd-g9qIVZw&feature=PlayList&p=B16E0C8E552629DE&index=33

Plankton | Tropical Marine Life DVD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuXMz3j9E8k&feature=related

Phytoplankton !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQYKa5AofQ8&feature=related

phytoplankton for humans lol don't take this to seriously yet its still in
development for filterization and doses along with cure for deseases etc etc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJbqIncS-40&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dwC1t5G6fk&feature=related

2Frosty4u wrote:Thanks for the link. The pics Santa Monica has posted clears up some questions swirling around in my head.

No problem people can alway's add a ATS scrubber with less flow/light to compliment their Skimmer and refuge as well

but if you go too big then macro won't grow along with the skimmer not being able to work I believe or atleast it will be watery and light yellow the skimmate instead of thick and dark coloured

Now you've done it......I clicked on a couple of the links and did a quick scan and found them to be something interesting to read and or re-read...I'll talk to you in a week or three when I'm finished...lol

2Frosty4u wrote:Now you've done it......I clicked on a couple of the links and did a quick scan and found them to be something interesting to read and or re-read...I'll talk to you in a week or three when I'm finished...lol

LoL I included some vids^^ not sure if your into it but figured why not
I like on how powerful algae/phytoplankton is and the importance of zooplankton.

Temp in my tank reached 83F so I went out a bought these fans from walmart work's great now my temp stays at 78F during the night and 79F during the day on low speed with 8-t5,H.O on a 90G/25Gsump



Tumbled marble frag plugs from home depot



Also created this so I can cut then glue later to a plug and or maybe create patterns with zoo's






Was just experimenting with this type of way to ship maybe I'll add it to a large pill bottle then tripple bag for shipping


was thinking of doing a batch of frag plugs again I like this type of mold I'm thinking of buying some I figured it would give a slight half dome shape while being flat on the bottom of the plug if the mold will work and cement does'nt stick to silicone/rubber?

No skimmer,no refuge,no sump 20G frag table 4-t5 h.o 20G long