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Post by 300gallonacrylic Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:07 pm

Hey all,

Hope someone can help me out with this problem. This morning when my lights came on, I noticed that my kole tang was kinda pale in colour, it also looked like he had a dusting of rust on him. I went to timmies for a coffee run, and on my return, I noticed that now the kole tang is about 50% covered in some kind of black blotches. I have attached a pic. Not sure what it is, or why it's there, any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance
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Tank Size- Gallons : 300gallon, display with 2 ocellaris clowns, 2 maroon clowns, foxface, kole tang, yellow tang, purple tang, orange shoulder tang, regal blue tang, asfur angelfish, green mandarin dragonette, tiger pistol shrimp & banded shrimpgoby, brittle starfish, 2 sally lightfoot crabs, 3 emerald crabs, lots of blue leg hermits, tons of snails, 3 rose BTA(just keeps splitting), 2 green BTA, 2 cleaner shrimp, 2 peppermint shrimp, about 600 lbs of live rock, frogspawn, some zoo's and some mushrooms. 4-175w metal halides(soon to be triple 400w halides), 4-96w power compact actinics, moonlights, 2-berlin skimmers and a instant ocean skimmer as well
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Post by Cookieman888 Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:52 pm

My initial thought in reading the post was black ich, but see that picture it would have to be the worst case I have ever seen.
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Post by 300gallonacrylic Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:00 pm

I think it may be stress related just because of how quickly it has progressed. The fish went from 100% fine last night, to pale colouring in the morning(looked like he saw a ghost), to covered in black blotches by noon. I can't find anything on the net like it. It kinda reminds me of the colour change the foxface goes through at night.
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Age : 46
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Tank Size- Gallons : 300gallon, display with 2 ocellaris clowns, 2 maroon clowns, foxface, kole tang, yellow tang, purple tang, orange shoulder tang, regal blue tang, asfur angelfish, green mandarin dragonette, tiger pistol shrimp & banded shrimpgoby, brittle starfish, 2 sally lightfoot crabs, 3 emerald crabs, lots of blue leg hermits, tons of snails, 3 rose BTA(just keeps splitting), 2 green BTA, 2 cleaner shrimp, 2 peppermint shrimp, about 600 lbs of live rock, frogspawn, some zoo's and some mushrooms. 4-175w metal halides(soon to be triple 400w halides), 4-96w power compact actinics, moonlights, 2-berlin skimmers and a instant ocean skimmer as well
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Post by 300gallonacrylic Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:02 pm

I'll update again when I get home.
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Number of posts : 63
Age : 46
Location : Ontario, Canada
Tank Size- Gallons : 300gallon, display with 2 ocellaris clowns, 2 maroon clowns, foxface, kole tang, yellow tang, purple tang, orange shoulder tang, regal blue tang, asfur angelfish, green mandarin dragonette, tiger pistol shrimp & banded shrimpgoby, brittle starfish, 2 sally lightfoot crabs, 3 emerald crabs, lots of blue leg hermits, tons of snails, 3 rose BTA(just keeps splitting), 2 green BTA, 2 cleaner shrimp, 2 peppermint shrimp, about 600 lbs of live rock, frogspawn, some zoo's and some mushrooms. 4-175w metal halides(soon to be triple 400w halides), 4-96w power compact actinics, moonlights, 2-berlin skimmers and a instant ocean skimmer as well
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Post by SATELLITE Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:50 am

is he eating fine? and swimming good. could he have got stung by something?
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Post by Shannon *Admin* Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:51 am

wow...now theres something I can honestly say I have never seen or heard of ever ..I will follow this thread to see where this goes...
Good Luck...I will research as much info as I can...
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Post by 300gallonacrylic Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:02 am

Ok, it's morning now, and the black blotches are all gone.....he is still very pale in colour though....could he maybe have been stung by the foxface? Or the anemone? That's the only thing I can think of....He was mostly in hiding yesterday, however when I fed the fish last night, around 6-7pm, he did come out and try to eat a bit....and I did notice him picking at the bottom of the tank and some rocks. As for his diet, I feed him Spectrum pellets, spirulina flakes, and daily I switch between red seaweed, green seaweed, and some seaweed I picked up from the oriental section of the grocery store(used to wrap sushi). I'll try to get a pic of him now.
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Number of posts : 63
Age : 46
Location : Ontario, Canada
Tank Size- Gallons : 300gallon, display with 2 ocellaris clowns, 2 maroon clowns, foxface, kole tang, yellow tang, purple tang, orange shoulder tang, regal blue tang, asfur angelfish, green mandarin dragonette, tiger pistol shrimp & banded shrimpgoby, brittle starfish, 2 sally lightfoot crabs, 3 emerald crabs, lots of blue leg hermits, tons of snails, 3 rose BTA(just keeps splitting), 2 green BTA, 2 cleaner shrimp, 2 peppermint shrimp, about 600 lbs of live rock, frogspawn, some zoo's and some mushrooms. 4-175w metal halides(soon to be triple 400w halides), 4-96w power compact actinics, moonlights, 2-berlin skimmers and a instant ocean skimmer as well
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Post by 300gallonacrylic Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:32 am

Ok, here's a pic of him from this morning....may not be able to tell, but his colour is still very pale, still has what looks like a rust colour dusting on him. He seems to be swimming weird as well....kinda twitchy and jerky, and he hides alot....he's always been hiding, but now more than ever.

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Number of posts : 63
Age : 46
Location : Ontario, Canada
Tank Size- Gallons : 300gallon, display with 2 ocellaris clowns, 2 maroon clowns, foxface, kole tang, yellow tang, purple tang, orange shoulder tang, regal blue tang, asfur angelfish, green mandarin dragonette, tiger pistol shrimp & banded shrimpgoby, brittle starfish, 2 sally lightfoot crabs, 3 emerald crabs, lots of blue leg hermits, tons of snails, 3 rose BTA(just keeps splitting), 2 green BTA, 2 cleaner shrimp, 2 peppermint shrimp, about 600 lbs of live rock, frogspawn, some zoo's and some mushrooms. 4-175w metal halides(soon to be triple 400w halides), 4-96w power compact actinics, moonlights, 2-berlin skimmers and a instant ocean skimmer as well
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Registration date : 2009-01-08

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Post by 300gallonacrylic Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:36 am

I don't see any injuries to him anywhere, I was debating trying to net him and put him in QT, but I think to catch him, I'd have to pull out ALL the rockwork, and I'm not into that right now, as I've got a pond in my basement right now....my hot water tank sh*t the bed and was leaking all day yesterday while we were out, and my entire basement is in about an inch of water.... Sad
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Number of posts : 63
Age : 46
Location : Ontario, Canada
Tank Size- Gallons : 300gallon, display with 2 ocellaris clowns, 2 maroon clowns, foxface, kole tang, yellow tang, purple tang, orange shoulder tang, regal blue tang, asfur angelfish, green mandarin dragonette, tiger pistol shrimp & banded shrimpgoby, brittle starfish, 2 sally lightfoot crabs, 3 emerald crabs, lots of blue leg hermits, tons of snails, 3 rose BTA(just keeps splitting), 2 green BTA, 2 cleaner shrimp, 2 peppermint shrimp, about 600 lbs of live rock, frogspawn, some zoo's and some mushrooms. 4-175w metal halides(soon to be triple 400w halides), 4-96w power compact actinics, moonlights, 2-berlin skimmers and a instant ocean skimmer as well
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Registration date : 2009-01-08

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Post by 300gallonacrylic Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:50 am

WAYYYYY off topic, but check out this pic of one of my dogue de bordeaux haulin' A$$ around the yard.

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Number of posts : 63
Age : 46
Location : Ontario, Canada
Tank Size- Gallons : 300gallon, display with 2 ocellaris clowns, 2 maroon clowns, foxface, kole tang, yellow tang, purple tang, orange shoulder tang, regal blue tang, asfur angelfish, green mandarin dragonette, tiger pistol shrimp & banded shrimpgoby, brittle starfish, 2 sally lightfoot crabs, 3 emerald crabs, lots of blue leg hermits, tons of snails, 3 rose BTA(just keeps splitting), 2 green BTA, 2 cleaner shrimp, 2 peppermint shrimp, about 600 lbs of live rock, frogspawn, some zoo's and some mushrooms. 4-175w metal halides(soon to be triple 400w halides), 4-96w power compact actinics, moonlights, 2-berlin skimmers and a instant ocean skimmer as well
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Post by SATELLITE Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:56 pm

if you can get garlic guard that will help him want to eat more. possible that the anenome stung the tang, can happen..
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Post by 300gallonacrylic Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:03 pm

*****UPDATE*****

The Kole Tang looks totally normal now...must've been stress related I'm guessing.....thanks to everyone for helping. We really appreciate it. I'll update soon with some more pics.
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Number of posts : 63
Age : 46
Location : Ontario, Canada
Tank Size- Gallons : 300gallon, display with 2 ocellaris clowns, 2 maroon clowns, foxface, kole tang, yellow tang, purple tang, orange shoulder tang, regal blue tang, asfur angelfish, green mandarin dragonette, tiger pistol shrimp & banded shrimpgoby, brittle starfish, 2 sally lightfoot crabs, 3 emerald crabs, lots of blue leg hermits, tons of snails, 3 rose BTA(just keeps splitting), 2 green BTA, 2 cleaner shrimp, 2 peppermint shrimp, about 600 lbs of live rock, frogspawn, some zoo's and some mushrooms. 4-175w metal halides(soon to be triple 400w halides), 4-96w power compact actinics, moonlights, 2-berlin skimmers and a instant ocean skimmer as well
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